Create a pattern bg before entering IM Make it taller than wide. I used crosshatch30 http://www.scri8e.com/IM_Tutor/my_IM_tutes/1IM_Made/BorderEdges/Bows/zcrosshatch30.gif Take the above image to gifworks Under effects select hourglass http://www.scri8e.com/IM_Tutor/my_IM_tutes/1IM_Made/BorderEdges/Bows/zcross30GW-Hourglass.gif Under edit turn to the left Under effects select color tv Now optimize websafe colors Save your done http://www.scri8e.com/IM_Tutor/my_IM_tutes/1IM_Made/BorderEdges/Bows/zcrossGW-TV-L.gif ================================================== http://www.scri8e.com/IM_Tutor/my_IM_tutes/1IM_Made/BorderEdges/Bows/B01.gif These 1 - B04.gif Is this comp'd rotate 45 and played with. http://www.scri8e.com/IM_Tutor/my_IM_tutes/1IM_Made/BorderEdges/Bows/bowX01.gif I got the above shape by implode 1 under the F/X tab using -Trans1.gif from my border edge sub. ======================================================